From cdrussin at centurylink.net  Fri Feb  2 10:08:17 2024
From: cdrussin at centurylink.net (DONALD GRUSSING Owner)
Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2024 08:08:17 -0800
Subject: [Mnbird] Absent
Message-ID: <S6QOWLJM6MU4.BH8OE92QW70P1@luweb01oc>

First winter ever without Pileated Woodpeckers or Brown Creepers at my suet feeder on the trunk of an oak tree.  Is it the weather or last summer's fires, or the drought (no bugs) or.....


Don Grussing
Minnetonka
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From gleskarider at gmail.com  Fri Feb  2 10:46:04 2024
From: gleskarider at gmail.com (Pamela Brustman)
Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2024 10:46:04 -0600
Subject: [Mnbird] Absent
In-Reply-To: <S6QOWLJM6MU4.BH8OE92QW70P1@luweb01oc>
References: <S6QOWLJM6MU4.BH8OE92QW70P1@luweb01oc>
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I've had pileateds. I haven't seen a brown creeper for awhile. I'm in
Wright cty, St Michael.

On Fri, Feb 2, 2024, 10:11?AM DONALD GRUSSING Owner via Mnbird <
mnbird at lists.mnbird.net> wrote:

> First winter ever without Pileated Woodpeckers or Brown Creepers at my
> suet feeder on the trunk of an oak tree.  Is it the weather or last
> summer's fires, or the drought (no bugs) or.....
>
> Don Grussing
> Minnetonka
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From smkennedy_mn at yahoo.com  Fri Feb  2 11:18:55 2024
From: smkennedy_mn at yahoo.com (Susan Kennedy)
Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2024 17:18:55 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Mnbird] Weird
References: <351141381.4492790.1706894335588.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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Every year the juncos come here from further north. But this is the first year I have seen them taking a bath in my pond in January. So much for snowbirds.
Susan KennedySW Mpls.
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From Carla at sundogfarm.info  Fri Feb  2 12:34:34 2024
From: Carla at sundogfarm.info (Carla Smith)
Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2024 18:34:34 +0000
Subject: [Mnbird] Absent
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Message-ID: <6E68C5F8-CF5C-48C3-B6FF-972C3D2271BF@sundogfarm.info>

I usually have lots of woodpeckers (Pileated, red breasted, downy, hairy). I?ve had a few Pileateds this winter on suet and flying around between trees and woods but numbers of all are down and I?ve really noticed far fewer red breasteds. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 2, 2024, at 10:11 AM, DONALD GRUSSING Owner via Mnbird <mnbird at lists.mnbird.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> First winter ever without Pileated Woodpeckers or Brown Creepers at my suet feeder on the trunk of an oak tree.  Is it the weather or last summer's fires, or the drought (no bugs) or.....
> 
> Don Grussing
> Minnetonka
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> Mnbird at lists.mnbird.net
> http://mail.lists.mnbird.net/mailman/listinfo/mnbird_lists.mnbird.net

From marylouisenorman at gmail.com  Fri Feb  2 15:30:34 2024
From: marylouisenorman at gmail.com (mary norman)
Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2024 15:30:34 -0600
Subject: [Mnbird] Absent
In-Reply-To: <CAFHYYPv5TdgXtqKogA8YYpyzwJGLZrc5qKF2apLwAGtkQmLu2g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <S6QOWLJM6MU4.BH8OE92QW70P1@luweb01oc>
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Had 1 pileated at our home near the Zoo.   A couple of red-bellied, a hairy, some downies.    Juncos.   Blue Jays. Am Gold finches - about 10!.  House finches.  White breasted nuthatches.  A few cardinals. Chickadees, of course!  Starlings.  Haven?t seen a brown creeper.

Mary Norman
Apple Valley

> On Feb 2, 2024, at 10:46 AM, Pamela Brustman via Mnbird <mnbird at lists.mnbird.net> wrote:
> 
> I've had pileateds. I haven't seen a brown creeper for awhile. I'm in Wright cty, St Michael. 
> 
> On Fri, Feb 2, 2024, 10:11?AM DONALD GRUSSING Owner via Mnbird <mnbird at lists.mnbird.net <mailto:mnbird at lists.mnbird.net>> wrote:
>> First winter ever without Pileated Woodpeckers or Brown Creepers at my suet feeder on the trunk of an oak tree.  Is it the weather or last summer's fires, or the drought (no bugs) or.....
>> 
>> Don Grussing
>> Minnetonka
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From johnson-miller at msn.com  Fri Feb  2 15:50:58 2024
From: johnson-miller at msn.com (Miller Johnson)
Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2024 21:50:58 +0000
Subject: [Mnbird] White-throated Sparrow, Dakota Co
Message-ID: <SN7PR12MB68134B8339652CE729F5C9D28A422@SN7PR12MB6813.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>

I've had a White-throated Sparrow here all winter. It hangs out with a dozen or more juncos, which I'm assuming have been showing it "the way." As the winter has continued, it also started coming in at dusk with the cardinals. Most of the juncos had disappeared with the warm weather, but about 25 juncos just came in and the WTSP was with them!  

We've had a young Sharp-shinned Hawk and an adult Cooper's hunting on our property this winter, so I've had some nervous moments, always anxious to see if the White-throated Sparrow reappears after their visits. So far so good. Knock on wood.

Molly Jo Miller
Inver Grove Ht
Dakota Co

From bcdrill at charter.net  Mon Feb  5 13:02:51 2024
From: bcdrill at charter.net (bcdrill at charter.net)
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2024 19:02:51 +0000
Subject: [Mnbird] ID Assist Please
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From raredance at aol.com  Mon Feb  5 16:38:47 2024
From: raredance at aol.com (raredance)
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2024 16:38:47 -0600
Subject: [Mnbird] ID Assist Please
In-Reply-To: <d65f3506-eae6-4cad-9d83-709db601c303@charter.net>
Message-ID: <811383814.3787071.1707172734011@aol.com>

Red-tailed?Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message --------From: bcdrill--- via Mnbird <mnbird at lists.mnbird.net> Date: 2/5/24  2:12 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: mnbird at lists.mnbird.net Subject: [Mnbird] ID Assist Please Good afternoon all.? This fine specimen was perched about 3 houses down from us as we returned from our morning walk today and remained calmly preening and looking around for quite a nice length of time.? I was able to see that it had feathered legs when it raised one to scratch itself, so the best guess I had was rough legged hawk?? It appeared quite imposing as it was all fluffed up against the morning chill and we at first thought it was an owl by size until I could grab my binoculars and then camera to get a zoom view.? This was my best photo showing the beak, etc, as some photos had it with a turned head. 
Thanks to anyone who takes the time to respond--we always like to learn from a new sighting.? Cindy in North Mankato
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From gleskarider at gmail.com  Mon Feb  5 16:43:54 2024
From: gleskarider at gmail.com (Pamela Brustman)
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2024 16:43:54 -0600
Subject: [Mnbird] ID Assist Please
In-Reply-To: <811383814.3787071.1707172734011@aol.com>
References: <d65f3506-eae6-4cad-9d83-709db601c303@charter.net>
 <811383814.3787071.1707172734011@aol.com>
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That's my uh, guess, also. RTH. That belly band, and no dark band on the
tail. The beak doesn't look small either, to me, in proportion to bird.
Can't really see the legs.
Anyone else got ideas on this bird?

On Mon, Feb 5, 2024, 4:39?PM raredance via Mnbird <mnbird at lists.mnbird.net>
wrote:

> Red-tailed?
>
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: bcdrill--- via Mnbird <mnbird at lists.mnbird.net>
> Date: 2/5/24 2:12 PM (GMT-06:00)
> To: mnbird at lists.mnbird.net
> Subject: [Mnbird] ID Assist Please
>
> Good afternoon all.  This fine specimen was perched about 3 houses down
> from us as we returned from our morning walk today and remained calmly
> preening and looking around for quite a nice length of time.  I was able to
> see that it had feathered legs when it raised one to scratch itself, so the
> best guess I had was rough legged hawk?  It appeared quite imposing as it
> was all fluffed up against the morning chill and we at first thought it was
> an owl by size until I could grab my binoculars and then camera to get a
> zoom view.  This was my best photo showing the beak, etc, as some photos
> had it with a turned head.
>
> Thanks to anyone who takes the time to respond--we always like to learn
> from a new sighting.  Cindy in North Mankato
> _______________________________________________
> Mnbird mailing list
> Mnbird at lists.mnbird.net
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From psitz at goldengate.net  Mon Feb  5 17:09:30 2024
From: psitz at goldengate.net (Paul Sitz)
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2024 17:09:30 -0600
Subject: [Mnbird] ID Assist Please
In-Reply-To: <d65f3506-eae6-4cad-9d83-709db601c303@charter.net>
References: <d65f3506-eae6-4cad-9d83-709db601c303@charter.net>
Message-ID: <000001da5888$60365160$20a2f420$@goldengate.net>

It is my understanding that a large unidentified hawk is a Red Tailed Hawk.

 

Paul Sitz

 

From: Mnbird <mnbird-bounces at lists.mnbird.net> On Behalf Of bcdrill--- via Mnbird
Sent: Monday, February 5, 2024 1:03 PM
To: mnbird at lists.mnbird.net
Subject: [Mnbird] ID Assist Please

 

Good afternoon all.  This fine specimen was perched about 3 houses down from us as we returned from our morning walk today and remained calmly preening and looking around for quite a nice length of time.  I was able to see that it had feathered legs when it raised one to scratch itself, so the best guess I had was rough legged hawk?  It appeared quite imposing as it was all fluffed up against the morning chill and we at first thought it was an owl by size until I could grab my binoculars and then camera to get a zoom view.  This was my best photo showing the beak, etc, as some photos had it with a turned head. 

Thanks to anyone who takes the time to respond--we always like to learn from a new sighting.  Cindy in North Mankato

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From Steven.Chesney at outlook.com  Mon Feb  5 17:31:29 2024
From: Steven.Chesney at outlook.com (Steven Chesney)
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2024 23:31:29 +0000
Subject: [Mnbird] ID Assist Please
In-Reply-To: <000001da5888$60365160$20a2f420$@goldengate.net>
References: <d65f3506-eae6-4cad-9d83-709db601c303@charter.net>
 <000001da5888$60365160$20a2f420$@goldengate.net>
Message-ID: <MW6PR12MB8897C69CD74287126D97F4C882472@MW6PR12MB8897.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>

That?s a corollary to Stiteler?s Law of Hawk ID:  ?Find a reason it?s not a Red Tailed Hawk.?

From: Mnbird <mnbird-bounces at lists.mnbird.net> On Behalf Of Paul Sitz via Mnbird
Sent: Monday, February 5, 2024 5:10 PM
To: bcdrill at charter.net; mnbird at lists.mnbird.net
Subject: Re: [Mnbird] ID Assist Please

It is my understanding that a large unidentified hawk is a Red Tailed Hawk.

Paul Sitz

From: Mnbird <mnbird-bounces at lists.mnbird.net<mailto:mnbird-bounces at lists.mnbird.net>> On Behalf Of bcdrill--- via Mnbird
Sent: Monday, February 5, 2024 1:03 PM
To: mnbird at lists.mnbird.net<mailto:mnbird at lists.mnbird.net>
Subject: [Mnbird] ID Assist Please


Good afternoon all.  This fine specimen was perched about 3 houses down from us as we returned from our morning walk today and remained calmly preening and looking around for quite a nice length of time.  I was able to see that it had feathered legs when it raised one to scratch itself, so the best guess I had was rough legged hawk?  It appeared quite imposing as it was all fluffed up against the morning chill and we at first thought it was an owl by size until I could grab my binoculars and then camera to get a zoom view.  This was my best photo showing the beak, etc, as some photos had it with a turned head.

Thanks to anyone who takes the time to respond--we always like to learn from a new sighting.  Cindy in North Mankato
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From hamerjohn34 at gmail.com  Tue Feb  6 00:13:03 2024
From: hamerjohn34 at gmail.com (John Hamer)
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2024 00:13:03 -0600
Subject: [Mnbird] ID Assist Please
In-Reply-To: <MW6PR12MB8897C69CD74287126D97F4C882472@MW6PR12MB8897.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>
References: <d65f3506-eae6-4cad-9d83-709db601c303@charter.net>
 <000001da5888$60365160$20a2f420$@goldengate.net>
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I have seen 7 of these that look like your bird sitting on highway lights
along 169 and 494 lately. To me they are coopers juveniles.
It's a bit of a trick to id them while going by at 60 mpg but. They have a
distinct dark head that contrasts with a very light front.  They are medium
sized buteos. Their tale isn't as long as the cooper's hawks..A more
accurate guess would be if we can make out the black tip on the beek.  The
larger buteos would not let you get that close.

On Mon, Feb 5, 2024 at 5:32?PM Steven Chesney via Mnbird <
mnbird at lists.mnbird.net> wrote:

> That?s a corollary to Stiteler?s Law of Hawk ID:  ?Find a reason it?s not
> a Red Tailed Hawk.?
>
>
>
> *From:* Mnbird <mnbird-bounces at lists.mnbird.net> *On Behalf Of *Paul Sitz
> via Mnbird
> *Sent:* Monday, February 5, 2024 5:10 PM
> *To:* bcdrill at charter.net; mnbird at lists.mnbird.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Mnbird] ID Assist Please
>
>
>
> It is my understanding that a large unidentified hawk is a Red Tailed Hawk.
>
>
>
> Paul Sitz
>
>
>
> *From:* Mnbird <mnbird-bounces at lists.mnbird.net> *On Behalf Of *bcdrill---
> via Mnbird
> *Sent:* Monday, February 5, 2024 1:03 PM
> *To:* mnbird at lists.mnbird.net
> *Subject:* [Mnbird] ID Assist Please
>
>
>
> Good afternoon all.  This fine specimen was perched about 3 houses down
> from us as we returned from our morning walk today and remained calmly
> preening and looking around for quite a nice length of time.  I was able to
> see that it had feathered legs when it raised one to scratch itself, so the
> best guess I had was rough legged hawk?  It appeared quite imposing as it
> was all fluffed up against the morning chill and we at first thought it was
> an owl by size until I could grab my binoculars and then camera to get a
> zoom view.  This was my best photo showing the beak, etc, as some photos
> had it with a turned head.
>
> Thanks to anyone who takes the time to respond--we always like to learn
> from a new sighting.  Cindy in North Mankato
> _______________________________________________
> Mnbird mailing list
> Mnbird at lists.mnbird.net
> http://mail.lists.mnbird.net/mailman/listinfo/mnbird_lists.mnbird.net
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From bcdrill at charter.net  Tue Feb  6 10:40:55 2024
From: bcdrill at charter.net (Brian and Cindy Drill)
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2024 10:40:55 -0600
Subject: [Mnbird] Thank You All!
Message-ID: <b07b48c4-b9fb-42e1-912e-958a9526b227@charter.net>

It is very much appreciated that so many of you helped me out with that 
hawk ID.? When I had more time yesterday afternoon I studied it more and 
had come to the same conclusion of a red tailed hawk, but it was 
generous of you all to share your knowledge.

I will have to keep an eye on it as it apparently has settled in the 
neighborhood for now, it was on the same branch perch this morning 
again.? Cindy in North Mankato


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From marylouisenorman at gmail.com  Tue Feb  6 13:56:07 2024
From: marylouisenorman at gmail.com (mary norman)
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2024 13:56:07 -0600
Subject: [Mnbird] Thank You All!
In-Reply-To: <b07b48c4-b9fb-42e1-912e-958a9526b227@charter.net>
References: <b07b48c4-b9fb-42e1-912e-958a9526b227@charter.net>
Message-ID: <A1D713E5-471D-4BAA-BE75-C7E7ED48DC52@gmail.com>

I believe it has been said in problems of hawk ID, that ?assume it is a red tailed unless proven otherwise?!
Said by leaders on birding tours I have been on!

Mary in Apple Valley

> On Feb 6, 2024, at 10:40 AM, Brian and Cindy Drill via Mnbird <mnbird at lists.mnbird.net> wrote:
> 
> It is very much appreciated that so many of you helped me out with that hawk ID.  When I had more time yesterday afternoon I studied it more and had come to the same conclusion of a red tailed hawk, but it was generous of you all to share your knowledge.  
> 
> I will have to keep an eye on it as it apparently has settled in the neighborhood for now, it was on the same branch perch this morning again.  Cindy in North Mankato
> 
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